azile
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Post by azile on Oct 2, 2003 5:41:09 GMT -5
i thought this topic deserves a thread of its own. i'm currently seeing one of the most abominable crimes in writing - yes pplz, i'm talking about stealing from other people's work. www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=1525879is this a thread to bitch? not really - but this author is an example just how despicable the act of plagerism is. and wow, she doesn't even regret doing it. this is probably my second copycat that i've seen. the first one had the story deleted by ff.net, for which i'm glad but if flamers peeve you people off, turn your anger towards the people who copy and steal. copying is just not on. azzy
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Post by Kekowan on Oct 2, 2003 15:00:27 GMT -5
ya,.... some ppl are just .....
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Oct 2, 2003 16:06:23 GMT -5
Ok - even without clicking on the link, I could tell that it's that HisoIllu story. Right, Azile-san? Well, the 'author', IceMaster, she IS capable of writing original stories. But then, she gave us a negative image by copying someone else's story. No wonder everyone's mad at her. (I don't know the full details about the copying of the story or the title, so I'm not gonna interfere that much.) The title - The Definiton of Valentine's Day, I saw it after reading Yomi-san's story, and I just saw half of it, so I was thinking, why did Yomi-san post up her story twice? But then, I saw a different story inside. *sighs* In general, I don't like copycats. Especially copycats who copy well-written stories and claim them as their own.
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Post by azile on Oct 2, 2003 21:22:09 GMT -5
I saw it after reading Yomi-san's story, and I just saw half of it, so I was thinking, why did Yomi-san post up her story twice? But then, I saw a different story inside. *sighs*
my friend would be glad to hear that other people think like she does. in fact...2-3 more people who have reviewed also think like she does. this guy kennie asked what the title means to the story, and guess what, it has no meaning for the story. goodness, i've never seen such a stubborn liar before.
Well, the 'author', IceMaster, she IS capable of writing original stories. But then, she gave us a negative image by copying someone else's story.
unfortunately, here's where you are wrong. it's not wrong to copy because it gives you a 'negative image' - just as you should never feel the urge to shoplift, the mere thought about taking someone else's work should not even cross your mind, not even for one small second. for copycats, we're angry, well, i'm angry, about the dishonesty that they have for even plagerising another work in the first place. and she aint understand this point - because she aint see copying as dishonesty, which is simply tragic.
she is capable? how do you know this? by writing parodies of songs? that's barely legal, let alone original because the lyrics are already there for you to spin, meaning that you didn't really have to come up with groundwork.
i won't talk more about this author otherwise it will run down into a bitchfest, but as per the title masami, you could leave her a review as well telling her just how 'coincidental' and 'similar' her title is. who does she think she's trying to fool with the miraculous coincidence?
as for the first copycat i encountered, she lamented on about how you can't even share ideas anymore. that made me laugh. had her fic still existed, i could have directed you to the original, and we can all see that she lifted much, much more than the idea.
azzy
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Oct 2, 2003 21:32:20 GMT -5
Yes, the title is definitely no coincidence. I think she is just stubborn about this because we can't prove to everyone that she copied (even if it's obvious). As for the story, Yomi-san had the link to the original story. So I guess she didn't have a choice but to delete that part (she still wants to attract readers, ne?).
I didn't really want to get involved in an argument, but the more I think about it, the more obvious it is that she COPIED Yomi-san's title. I think I'll leave her a note sometime.
I think there are other people who are translating stories from another language, and posting it as their own. Just because they don't think we can find the original.
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Post by lunatic on Oct 14, 2003 3:46:20 GMT -5
plagiarism is untollerable (am I spell it right? ); it was a totally different story if the person only copy the plots and asked permission for the real author to use it in her/his fic. The Gundam Wing fandom has its own plagiarism control, in the HxH fandom, there's always Yomi-san ;D
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Oct 14, 2003 18:08:50 GMT -5
Lol yeah ^^; A lot of people are keeping an eye of that stuff Yomi-san's done a great job ;D I don't think there's any stuff of that kind in the HxH section now ^^
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Post by azile on Oct 18, 2003 4:38:50 GMT -5
;D visited fanfiction.net last night or was it the night before (mind getting messed up with the studying) but just a quick note that the efforts of a few anonymous reviewers at ff.net has made the ejection of the copycat possible.
just so you guys know who this wonderfully helpful person is, his/her name was kennie and his/her sister. boy did she make sousakaice look like a flustering moron. you should have been there in her dying moments when she tried to explain how her title, the one she blatantly ripped, was 'relevant' to her story. never came up with a reasonable answer, so that just goes to show what a truthful little girl she is.
anyhow, i also heard from yomi that she found that another part of the fic had also been copied so she reported it straight away to ff.net. she told me it had something to do with the flashback scene - the story is pretty vague in my mind now - but i think i remember sousakaice trying to fob it off as a cliche. well, apparently not.
her being gone makes the hunter section a cleaner place again. rejoice all!
azzy
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Oct 18, 2003 14:08:39 GMT -5
YAY!! *starts dancing* Now I feel like a moron for ever liking her stories I just came back from FFnet, and Azile-san, her user ID is still on FFnet!! www.fanfiction.net/~sousakaice She wrote some poem saying sorry (like anyone would believe her now) and stuff. How long would it take FFnet to remove her account?
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Post by azile on Oct 18, 2003 21:37:02 GMT -5
hmmm maybe ff.net just deletes the story and not the account? and lordy the pretense she still carries - a poem! yeesh, who does she think she is? and she has never apologized - if she did, she would not have so stubbornly kept yomi's title . bah - she'll probably just come back with another account in a month or two anyway. cowards tend to do that. azzy
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Oct 19, 2003 10:34:51 GMT -5
Yeah, she'll probably get a new account/penname. And she does have a lot of apologizing to do. I mean, she took other people's stories, lied to us, and wrote a 'pitiful' poem on whether or not she should leave. Doesn't she know what reply we've got for her?
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Post by Yomi on Oct 22, 2003 9:26:18 GMT -5
Ah yes....what a fiasco that was. Thanks for sticking up for me again Liz, and I guess you weren't the only one shocked by her behaviour. And what's with the poem?! Urgh...yet another pretencious grab at 'high English' or something. You're right masami, she never apologized and refused to give me back my title when she couldn't prove how it was actually relevant to her story. She probably took down her own fics - she said she would if anyone found another instance of unoriginality in her last fic. Nes Mikel found another one, namely a blatant rip of his OC's name. SousakaIce made an OC in Kurapika's head called 'Telrac' - spelt backwards, it's Carlet - take away the C and you get Arlet. Arlet is Nes' OC character in his Hunter fanfic - and that's GOT to be more than mere coincidence once again. Anyway, I found another Chinese fic which Ice copied from in her Valentines fic, so ff.net would have deleted it for her sooner or later. I don't grieve that she's gone - ff.net has one less author with a compunction to steal and deny. Yomi
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Oct 22, 2003 18:31:56 GMT -5
Yeah!! FFnet should be thankful there are people who are watching out for copycats Holy - another one?! So I get it that she copyed from several stories and put them together, claiming it as her own.... jeez, did think that just because she translated it, no one's going to find out?
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Post by Yomi on Oct 22, 2003 22:12:50 GMT -5
We should all keep a lookout. Anyway, since it's over, I'm not going to say any more about her. Hope she takes some time off and grow up a bit more before she decides to pen down some thoughts again.
Yomi
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Oct 23, 2003 15:19:40 GMT -5
Yeah Talking about her won't do much good. I'm thinking she might copy again though. She never apologized and all.... Oh yeah - About the new fic "Hunter High" By something Neko, I've seen that title before on a doujinshi cover. It was also about Hunters going to a High school, but I didn't read it coz it was Hisoka x Gon (@_@). I wonder if it's just a coincidence
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