Yumiko
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Post by Yumiko on Aug 16, 2003 3:43:04 GMT -5
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Post by Archangel_Dream on Aug 16, 2003 7:09:53 GMT -5
I haven't checked. He'd better be tho. ;D Don't worry Yumiko-san, I'll be joining you soon ^_^
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Aug 16, 2003 9:35:17 GMT -5
well.... at least it's only the OCs who are going to join ^^; not you guys ^^;;
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Post by Archangel_Dream on Aug 16, 2003 20:02:40 GMT -5
Yeah! Good point! Thanks, Sammi, that cheered me up a bit! ;D Yumiko-san, you may have done a good job on her but look at it this way...now that you've read other's opinions, you can further improve her! That'll be cool, ryt? ;D PS Yomi-san told me she'll be replying to your mail soon...she's just figuring out what to say ^_^ Ok?
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Yumiko
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Post by Yumiko on Aug 17, 2003 2:25:26 GMT -5
well....she doesn't seem to wanna forgive me... this is her reply:
Yes it's me, your most annoying 'flame defender' Yumiko. First of all I'm not being sarcastic what I'm about to say has no sarcastic tone in it....I'll leave that up to you to decide. Babe, how many times are you going to lie to me? How many times do I have to put up with your deception before you're satisfied? How can the above NOT be sarcastic?! The fact you chose to use inverted commas for flame defender, and the extra addition of the adjective annoying to describe yourself, negatively, is clearly indicative of sarcasm. You're not leaving this up to me to decide - you're lying to me, for whatever reasons you harbour, and I don't see why I should put up with it. Oh, I'm replying because one of your more informed friends told me you were fretting over not having a reply. So here I am, kindly putting you out of your misery. You know how you found out about the message board I'm in, and the thread I posted? Well...you might wanna look at the date, that time we were fighting over it and I was pissed off that's why I posted that. And you might like to look at the date when you made reference to my page. I thought we had gotten over the little fight, but your continued display of gross ignorance has led me to the conclusion that you're not worthy of my time. And hey! You were pissed off with the flames I was giving people, yet you pretended to be so happy to be 'flamed' by me. You just make me sick and I don't want to deal with people like that. "Interesting lot you hang around with Yumi. No wonder why I don't ever see you having a hope of improving. Birds of a feather all flock together - you got to get with a better crowd." <<-- I don't understand why you had to say that....but when I hang out with this 'lot' I have fun and make friends, and not stress over how ppl's fic suck. *shrug* What your group does in your spare time is of no concern whatsoever to me. Brag about your friends all you want, but does it look like I care? It still doesn't account for the fact that they have/had a nice habit of crooning over their precious feelings, unable to face the flaws in their fics. Thankfully, most of them have gotten over it, but you unfortuantely, still have a long way to go. If you acutally bothered reading the rest of the posts...some of my friends actually thanked you for reviewing their fics. And you can thank Zeus that they were more sincere than you and have actually made amazing improvements since. Please....if you decide to give an indepth critique of someone's fic, why don't you spend these efforts refining your own work first, so that when people say to you "I'd like to see you write a fic", at least you've got something presentable to show them. And I also thank you for reviewing my fic and I deeply apologize for the childish emails I sent you. Um...why? Kind thought and all (but I question the motivation and genuiness) but you have a right to hate me and no reason to explain yourself. I'm not looking for apologies or hate mail - just intelligent correspondence. If you think I'm specifically targeting you in my page - you're partly right. The other reason is because I can't find another flame defender so ignorant like you that you're the perfect example. Hey look, if you can find another gross hypocrite like yourself in the Hunter section, someone who likes to stick up for pieces of rubbish and can't tell the difference between criticism and a flame, then by all means tell me. I did learn lots of stuff from you, like not making my OC a mary-sue anymore (well I don't reckon she's a mary-sue anymore). And I actually HAVE a plot for my fic now. No, you haven't - at all. If you're referring to Chang Xiao Sen, then I'm sorry babe, but I fail to see how that's different from just about every other female OC Hunter fic out there. Although you state that you don't want Sen to have a romantic relationship with any of the established characters, the way she's interacting so intimately with Killua is not only OOC for Killua, but is so suggestive of romance. Furthermore, with the whole tragic background thing happening, the collapsing from the 'high fever', suggestions that the Genei Ryodan are involved in her tragic past, how nobody else matters if they're not related to Sen --> I don't see how this tripe is any different from the rubbish you used to spew. If there isn't some amazing twist in this, I'm sorry babe, but this is just another overused plot. Commendations for trying, but I guess you're just not trying hard enough. so..... I hope we won't argue anymore. Hey, you just don't have to respond to my emails if you don't want to argue. Personally, I think arguing is a very healthy discourse because it allows both parties to present different cases and allow us to inspect the pros and cons of those views. However, since you actively reduced it into a slug fest of who's more mature than who, or who's got more friends than who, I think you know that particular 'argument' can't really go anywhere. So unless you have something intelligent to say about my critique of your story, don't reply back. Good luck - and I hope one day, your writing standard can be comparable to masammi's latest fics. She's got actual paragraphs. You don't. And you're still using ... for some obscure reason. I've seen it in Chinese fics, but it's just sheer laziness in English. Hades
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Post by Archangel_Dream on Aug 18, 2003 4:51:55 GMT -5
Um.......did I just worsen things up.......? Sorry........ *reads*.........................................Hmm................
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Yumiko
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Post by Yumiko on Aug 18, 2003 5:49:09 GMT -5
nah u haven't resis... but "Oh, I'm replying because one of your more informed friends told me you were fretting over not having a reply. So here I am, kindly putting you out of your misery"
she sounds really up herself.... no offence I think she thinks too high of herself
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Post by Silva Sun on Aug 18, 2003 6:16:09 GMT -5
She's roleplaying. She supposed to sound like Hades, the God of the Underworld. If you were such an important god, you'd be up yourself too.
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Post by Archangel_Dream on Aug 18, 2003 7:27:12 GMT -5
*nods* I agree with Silva-san. And even if she is not...*shrugs* At least she's her own person...something I could never ever have. Lol!
Back to topic...I don't know whether I should side with Yumiko-san or Yomi-san **stammers and hides somewhere** XD But I guess I agree at both corners....and hey, she said you could argue with her Yumiko-san! So if you want, go snap at her! (Uh....hope u don't get this the wrong way...eep....) ^^
Um...just wanna ask tho...were you REALLY sincere when you apologized? I mean, REALLY sincere?? Coz I don't think Yomi-san/Hades is that convinced ^^
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Post by Silva Sun on Aug 18, 2003 7:40:30 GMT -5
IF you're going to argue with Yomi-san, have some really good material to back up your views. Arguing is fun, really.
And be polite. Yomi-san is human too, or you know, at least humanoid-ish. ^_^
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Post by Archangel_Dream on Aug 18, 2003 8:29:59 GMT -5
Yeah, but not to the extent that you had to shave off half of your thoughts. Spew them all out....nicely ;D If you are not nice, then so be it! Lol! ;D
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Aug 18, 2003 11:35:42 GMT -5
I can understand both sides of this argument, I guess. You know how you're really mad at one point and when you let some time pass, you're not mad anymore?
Yumi-chan, if you can't convince Yomi-san/Hades, try showing her that in your fics. Make her comments useful, take her advice. If she doesn't believe you when you say something to her, you can always show her that in your action.
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Post by Yumiko on Aug 19, 2003 1:43:40 GMT -5
ok now i'm just back at being really mad at her!!!! she posted my email on her page again! and making me look really bad in front of people who don't know me!
Yes i was serious about being sorry Resis, but she doesn't seem to realize does she?? Like masami said, ur mad at someone at one point but time passes and ur not anymore! and that's what happend i'm not mad her anymore (i am now) I said I was sorry sincerly now she's freaking putting my email in public!!!!!!
and in the first time i emailed her about thanking her for reviewing my story, i was being honest! i really thanked her for reviewing my story until she started targeting and throwing insults at me.
She's even judging on me cuz I put that thread up in the fourm of 'Yumiko's Pathetic Fanfics" I am NOT trying to get freaking sympathy from ANYONE!! I DON'T Want them for god sakes!!!! It's just me!!! My self-esteem isn't exactly perfect!!!
sorry guys....i'm just u know....annoyed!
that's IT!! i'm not making ANYMORE OC/Mary sues!
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Post by Archangel_Dream on Aug 19, 2003 4:18:44 GMT -5
*pats Yumiko-san's back* I saw the updates too.
But all I can do now is agree with Sammi's advise. Try it! ;D
And it's okay if you won't make those OC's anymore....me, I'll just continue making male OC's until I learn how to make female ones from pros. Until then, I'll be sitting here and watching ^______^
PS Yomi-san finally posted Terra in the Hall of Shame. I was kinda amused and hurt at the same time...all in one aching head. OUCH! XD Oh well, at least I know what to avoid now in an OC............hopefully. ;D
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Aug 19, 2003 9:27:11 GMT -5
Being mad doesn't help much, Yumi-chan. When two people disagree, it's just.... hard trying to get back together. You know when people are mad? They tend to think of the negative points only.
I guess the insults are just a part of her role playing. Hades isn't exactly the nicest one of the Greek Gods. He kidnapped Persephone (another Greek myth character) and MADE her his wife. So Hades isn't supposed to be nice.
People has their likes and dislikes. If you really like writing, you should take the criticisms and see if they're helpful. My Dad used to be a journalist, and he told me when I started writing that there's sure to be good/bad comments. The tricky part is how you take it.
*hugs Yumi-chan* Trust me. Just let some time pass -- then you won't be mad at her anymore.
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