Rocky
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Post by Rocky on Mar 20, 2004 2:16:27 GMT -5
Good or bad? Most would say good, but think for a minute.
1) Almost anyone can vote. A lot of these people are morons who don't even know what they're voting for.
2) The common person can't do anything. The best they can do is suggest it, and if they miracliously get it to a major vote, it'd likely be cast aside, as the general masses dont' see its use (whatever the situation may be).
Think about it; Try not to use all that pro-North American stuff they teach you in school. Respond =)
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Post by Kekowan on Mar 20, 2004 22:02:49 GMT -5
good... talk about u what u think with out getting killed....
just a bit slow dat's all..
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Tsubasa
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Post by Tsubasa on Apr 20, 2004 8:23:36 GMT -5
To me, actually its bad if you have either corrupt officials or stupid people who's dominating the country or whatever you're situation is. It's true. You could see it in the Philippines in my opinion. I mean, right now, people are worrying over who will be our president. And the problem in it is that an actor is running for a president with only a 2nd year high school education. And the main main problem on the election day is that he (actor) might win. You know why? Because the population of the Philippines is comprised of I think 80% poor people who don't know who the heck the other candidates are except for the actor which he is famous for. So what good is democracy if it will just lead to puppet government due to lack of knowledge of a president who plans to run? Nada! But if the country is comprised of poor but educated people AND honest official, democracy could work. Democracy is quite an ideal government if there is equal percentage of the classes distributed to the country and of course politically. Which I think a chance of that would happen is like nil.
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Post by Chibiwonton on Apr 21, 2004 0:11:35 GMT -5
Wow, amazed by the response.
I never really gave a thought about this...probably because i'm practically not involved in any 'over 18' activities yet, then i just bum around and watch tv and go 'oh, so that's the new prime minister, cool' and just live my life.
HAHA basically i'll just agree that it's good, i wouldn't want some sort of totalitarian or facist or dictator rule going around.
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Apr 22, 2004 21:10:12 GMT -5
*bangs head on nearby wall* I just finished taking civics......... which was a real pain. Ok, won't get into that. I think democracy works well when people are actually taking the initiative of contributing their idea and opinion. Otherwise it'd be just elected dictatorship where the gov. gets to do whatever they like.
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Tsubasa
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Heaven and earth will fade, but His words will still remain. Mathew 24:35
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Post by Tsubasa on Apr 25, 2004 1:18:41 GMT -5
Actually Chibiwonton, I do what you do, which is watch T.V. and go ohhhh, so that's the latest news. But see the election for our country's new officials is near, and you know, that's the only things that you could hear lately. At home, streets and school.Coz you know, they're kind of campaingning.
Um isn't your country kind of having an election too? Canada right? I only know U.S. is in the campaign period and Taiwan already has their new president.
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Apr 25, 2004 10:33:08 GMT -5
Yes, Canada has elections too. Every 5 yrs or so. We use the FTPT (First past the post) system where the candidate doesn't have to get a majority to win. And I dislike that system because even though it would produce more majority governments, the MPs (members of Parliament) are appointed by the Prime Minister which means most of the MPs will be part of whatever party the PM is in. The rest of the MPs are the Official Opposition (party that won second most seats) and some other extras. So the government doesn't really reflect the view of all Canadians.
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Post by Chibiwonton on Apr 26, 2004 0:23:35 GMT -5
haha WOW you did your studying sammi =P
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Apr 26, 2004 15:46:03 GMT -5
LOL I had to memorize all that and more last semester.... but they're stuck in my head!! @_@;;
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Post by Chibiwonton on Apr 28, 2004 11:55:35 GMT -5
*claps* I went over that unit on social studies like....just 2 weeks ago and i forgot half of the crap already
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Apr 28, 2004 14:57:27 GMT -5
LOL Hope you won't be tested on it anymore.... ^^ I'm done my Civics course FOR LIFE!! LOL!!
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Post by Chibiwonton on Apr 28, 2004 19:50:00 GMT -5
seriously?? you don't have to take any more social study courses anymore?? And what grade are you in...10?? geez LUCKY!! I can see myself with all this crap piling up in the grade 12 final...*Sighs*
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Post by Eyes of Crimson on Apr 28, 2004 20:15:20 GMT -5
LOL We only need to take civics for half a year. Then we switch to careers (which is a pain in the.... down there.) So basically I don't ever have to take civics again XD or careers, after I finish this semester.... XD
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Post by Calliston on Jun 16, 2004 4:09:10 GMT -5
I think that no matter where you go, a government is always partially corrupt. Period. There has not yet been a perfect system that can efficiently balance the needs of the people, compared to the wants of the people. They are totally not the same thing.
For another, the only reason democracy *seems* corrupt is because with democracy and the freedom it implies, we're educated, are we not? Therefore, if we know everything that's happening, then we obviously know what's bad. But take, say dictorial Russia where nobody but the dictator knew what the fuck was happening, but at the same time, nobody knew about it, so therefore, how could anybody object to the system? Oh sure, we know about it *now*, but at the time, but isn't it because we've been educated on it?
And yeah, so morons can vote. Better having the people who know what they're doing balance it out, instead of having morons in power and can do whatever the fuck they want. And a democracy's a helluva lot better than anarchy, which is based on no government at all and having the people be entirely self sufficient. Like *that's* ever going to happen.
And no, the views of all Canadians aren't represented, but that's a little impossible considering how many Canadians there are. 30 million people can generate quite a few different view points. The way Canada works is that the people elect representatives to represent (thus their name) them in parliament, so a majority of people have their views represented (vocabulary is dying. It's late, and I'm sorry).
And the PM elects only senate members. The constituency votings are what elect MPs. That's why there are majority and minority governments, when the leading party does or doesn't win more than 50% of the seats. Plus, either way you go, there's the opposition party, and the senate to help keep the party in power in line.
I'm sorry, I'm raving about politics. I am such a geek. Make that the third time in three hours for me to be called that.
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Teranz_Estrate
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Post by Teranz_Estrate on Jun 23, 2004 14:14:07 GMT -5
I find that the democratic system set up in the usa isn't bad, but like most political systems it works better in theory. Unfortunatly this election year has no good candidates imo.
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